My friend, Roy Moran, interviewed me for his podcast. Here is the link if you want to listen:
http://www.disciplemakingmovements.com/listen
I encourage you to listen to all of Roy’s segments if you have an interest in Disciple Making Movements. There are some great discussions here.
From the Desk of John King 
John, Thanks for sharing. I am privileged to have some of this perspective from you, but so glad others are getting an opportunity the gain new insights and understanding as well. Larry
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